These pants were very disappointing. First off, they say they are made in China on the back waistband, not the US. Therefore, they should NOT be priced as high as they are. The material is very thin for a jogger pant and the sizing is way off if you're actually wanting a relaxed jogger pant look. I typically wear a small and ordered a medium in case they were cut more slim-like in order to achieve a ore relaxed look. These pants are barely even loose on me, so in order to get the look they should be, I'd need a large. It's silly to have sizing off by two sizes unless you like the look of a skin tight, painted on jogger pant. For the money, this was NOT a good purchase. What happened, fishewear?? I feel the quality of some of your items has gone way down. Supporting a communist country where ill treatment of its citizens runs rampant than most other countries helps no one.